On Migration

[[Hello.->Hello.]]

//[[Hi.->Hi.]]//

Thanks so much [[for coming today.->Thanks so much for coming today.]]

//No worries.// //I actually quite like doing [[things like this.->things like this.]]//

[[Really?->Really?]]

//Yeah, sure.// //In a way it kinda feeds my narcissism.// //It's nice to [[feel listened to.->feel listened to.]]//

Ha! That's [[very honest.->very honest!]]

//It's true.// //I mean, look at this room. I feel like I'm [[on a plinth.->a sex club.]]//

//I bet there's a row of men in suits behind that mirror. Change the lighting a bit and you've basically got [[a sex club.->pauses.]]//

I've been doing this job a long time and I don't think anyone has brought up sex clubs before. Certainly not before we've [[even started->even started]].

//Sorry... I'll be sensible.// //I promise I'm [[taking this seriously.->taking this seriously.]]//

I don't [[doubt it.->(He smiles.)]]

So, let's start by explaining a little of [[what will happen today.->what will happen today.]]

I'll be recording everything you say through the two microphones in front of you, and we have some wall-mounted cameras [[in the room too.->in the room too.]]

//Plus all the dudes jacking off [[behind the mirror...->behind the mirror...]]//

--Pardon? Oh. Oh yes of course. [[Ha.->Ha.]]

//Sorry... No more jokes.// //Honestly, [[I mean it this time.->mean it this time.]]//

Ha. Yes. Well. [[So...->So...]]

...we will be taking audio and video recordings, as well as being observed- //Knew it.// --and I'll also be typing a few observations on my laptop as we go. Please don't be alarmed [[by my note-taking.->by my note-taking.]]

//Don't worry Jonathan, your note-taking won't [[alarm me.->alarm me.]]//

My name's Jonathan, and I'll be guiding you through a series of questions. We'll probably be here for around ten to fifteen minutes, although if you need to, we can stop [[at any time.->at any time.]]

I also want to say, before we start, that we'll be looking at subject matter today that you may find difficult to look at, or [[distressing in some way.->distressing in some way.]]

I'd like to reassure you again that if you are free to end the interview [[at any time.->the incentive.]]

Do you have [[any questions?->any questions?]]

//Yeah. What happens if I give [[the wrong answer?->the wrong answer?]]//

Look at the screen for me. Read the text. <img src="http://i68.tinypic.com/11syozq.png"> Once you're ready, I want you to tell me how the text [[makes you feel.->makes you feel.]]

//It makes me feel [[ashamed and disappointed.->ashamed and disappointed.]]//

Can you elaborate? What in particular makes you [[feel that way?->feel that way?]]

//The fact that people no longer feel welcome here... feel that they have to make plans to protect themselves because the people and institutions of the UK [[no longer will.->no longer will.]]//

Do you trust the text? Do you believe it is [[true?->true?]]

//[[Yes.->Yes.]]//

[[Why?->Why?]]

//It's a believable story. I know many EU citizens who have starting making exit plans because of [[the referendum result.->the referendum result.]]//

[[Anything else?->Anything else?]]

//Well, I guess I'm having a professional reaction too. It's scary that it's an arts organisation.// //It makes me [[want to apologise.->want to apologise.]]//

What do you want to [[apologise for?->apologise for?]]

//For not doing more. For assuming the best of people - of voters - when maybe I should have assumed the worst. For not being able to [[prevent this.->prevent this.]]//

Okay, that's good. Let's [[move on.->move on.]]

Look at this image. <img src=http://i66.tinypic.com/6z29tt.png> What can you [[tell me about it?->tell me about it?]]

//Nigel Farage unveiled that billboard the week that [[Jo Cox was murdered.->Jo Cox was murdered.]]//

Vey good. I take it you understand those two things to be [[related?->related?]]

//[[I do.->I do.]]//

What can you tell me about [[the connection?->the connection?]]

//Nigel Farage has been trying to stir up hatred towards immigrants for a long time now.// //Jo Cox was an MP who believed in offering care and security to refugees.// //She was murdered in the street by [[a white supremacist.->a white supremacist.-white supremacist1]]//

You sound less emotional about this story somehow - more matter-of-fact. Can you tell me how Jo Cox's death [[made you feel?->made you feel?]]

//I don't think I'm less emotional about this.// //I think I'm [[more angry.->more angry.]]//

//I feel sad that the orchestra feels they have to leave the UK, but I feel vengeful towards Farage for using his platform to spread hate.// //I think he should be [[in jail.->in jail.]]//

To clarify, you are identifying Nigel Farage as a perpetrator of [[Jo Cox's murder?->Jo Cox's murder?]]

//[[I am.->I am.]]//

Good. Thank you. Let's [[move on.->move on 2]]

Have a look at this information about Maria. <img src= http://i66.tinypic.com/3134nbp.png> Once you're ready, I'd like you to tell me if there's any additional information you would like to know [[about her.->about her.]]

//Oh, I've seen this! This is from the I Am An Immigrant website.// //It's this really cool campaign which tries to [[counter negativity towards immigrants.->counter negativity towards immigrants.]]//

So would you say there's anything else you'd like to know about Maria? Has her profile [[raised any questions for you?->raised any questions for you?]]

//No, not really. She's symbolic.// //She's like a little story within [[a bigger narrative.->a bigger narrative.]]//

And what is [[that narrative?->that narrative?]]

//I think it's the collective contribution made - by immigrants - to [[the happiness and prosperity of UK communities.->the happiness and prosperity of UK communities.]]//

Fantastic. You're doing [[really well.->really well.]]

//Thanks! I guess I feel quite strongly about some of [[this stuff.->this stuff.]]//

As you should. Are you ready [[to continue?->to continue?]]

//[[Sure.->BF]]//

The next image I show you... you have to keep looking at it for a whole minute. I will be timing you, but I won't tell you when to stop; you'll have to estimate 60 seconds, and stop when you think the time is up. [[Do you understand?->Do you understand?]]

I'm going to show you a series of short texts. I want you to read them carefully, as I'll be asking specific questions [[about the content.->about the content.]]

//[[Cool.->Go for it.]]//

<img src= http://i63.tinypic.com/34fh5ko.png> Just let me know when you're ready for [[the questions.->the questions.]]

//Okay, [[I'm ready.->I'm ready.]]//

In what year did Mohammed begin using the 'hijar' [[method of invasion?->method of invasion?]]

//Oh please. Hijar is [[a town in Spain.->a town in Spain.]]//

Are you [[refusing to answer?->refusing to answer?]]

//No. I'm telling you your question is bollocks.// //All these people are [[talking bollocks.->talking bollocks.]]//

What do you understand by Sweden's use of [["code 291"?->"code 291"?]]

//Fuck knows. Some conspiracy theorist bullshit.// //I kinda can't believe you're asking me to take [[these people seriously.->these people seriously.]]//

Are my questions [[making you angry?->making you angry?]]

//Kind of. I guess.// //Incredulous really. I feel like these accounts can't be real. It has [[to be a joke.->to be a joke.]]//

You find them [[funny?->funny?]]

//Well, it's that or wanting to [[give up on the world completely.->give up on the world completely.]]//

Interesting. On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is laughing out loud and 10 is giving up on the world, which number best reflects your [[current state of mind?->current state of mind?]]

//This is ridiculous.// //4.// //No.// //[[3.->3.]]//

Three. Okay. [[Very good.->Very good.]]

Are you ready to continue? This will be [[the last task.->the last task.]]

//[[Sure.->Sure.]]//

//What happens if I leave before a [[minute is up?->yes4]]//

Great. Once you're done, you will be free to go. Don't forget to collect your incentive payment from the [[table by the door.->table by the door.]]

//Yes, yes. I'm ready.// //1 minute. [[Let's go.->yes2]]//

//Farage has a lot [[to answer for.->a white supremacist.]]//

We encourage you to be [[completely honest.->completely honest.]]

//Yeah but what if my honest answers are [[the wrong answers?->the wrong answers?]]//

//You should know I'm a good person. [[I really am.->I really am.]]//

//I give to charity. I work in the arts.// //We're all good people in the arts. No-one is paid enough to [[be a bastard.->be a bastard.]]//

//The time before last I even [[voted Green.->voted Green.]]//

[[Really?->Really2]]

//Yeah, absolutely. I've no reason to lie.// //See? I'm a [[GOOD PERSON.->GOOD PERSON.]]//

I suppose we'll find out, [[won't we...?->won't we...?]]

//So something will happen? If my answers aren't [[good enough?->good enough?]]//

The incentive payment is given regardless of [[your result.->your score.]]

//But you agree that this is a test?// //That you are [[keeping score?->keeping score?]]//

We're all keeping score... There's no [[avoiding that.->avoiding that.]]

//Well maybe you should start doing preliminary questionnaires or something, so you can tell in advance when you're dealing with already-good people.// //[[Just a thought.->Just a thought.]]//

Thank you. We appreciate your feedback. Now, are you [[ready to begin?->ready to begin?]]

//Yeah. [[Let's do it.->Great.]]//

Nothing. I record the time on my sheet, [[whatever it might be.->whatever it might be.]]

//No bonus points [[for accuracy?->for accuracy?]]//

//I'm just asking because traditionally I've been very good at these timing tasks.// //You should know that [[about me.->these timing tasks.]]//

There are no bonus points [[for this.->for this.]]

//Fine.// //Let's [[do it then.->yes3]]//

[[Are you ready?->Are you ready?]]